the thrutopian podcast
Welcome to Accidental Gods – the Thrutopian podcast where we believe that if we all work together, there is still time to lay the foundations for a future we’d be proud to leave to the generations that come after us.
Our aim is to offer a platform to those at the emergent edge of inter-becoming: people are are living the change we need to see in our system so that we can all co-create a world where human beings flourish as an integral part of the web of life.
We all need to know how we can be part of the solution, how we can contribute to tipping points that shift us to a way of living, learning, loving, that will give us the sense of meaning and purpose, being and belonging that our lives in the old system so often lack.
In a world where ideas grow faster than anything, we curate the cutting edge of neuroscience and psycho-technologies, connected spirituality and resilience, politics, philosophy and human creativity so that together, in all our diversity, we can choose a future we’re proud of.
By giving voice to those at the leading edge of change, we can all learn new ways to be, to live, to create community and to co-create world where people and planet flourish and we live as integral threads in the web of life.
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We all know we need to wake up, grow up, show up, but how do we actually do the inner work of growing into interdependence and then the outer work of healing our relationships and holding whole, generative spaces for all parts of ourselves, ourselves and each other, ourselves and the web of life?
That’s this week’s question and our guest on this episode has written a book that absolutely answers this, and more.
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#357 Dignity, Confidence and Care: The Matriarch Effect transforming lives with Dr Robyn Short
We all know we need to wake up, grow up, show up, but how do we actually do the inner work of growing into interdependence and then the outer work of healing our relationships and holding whole, generative spaces for all parts of ourselves, ourselves and each other, ourselves and the web of life?
That’s this week’s question and our guest on this episode has written a book that absolutely answers this, and more.
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#356 Hostage Nation Part 2 – Anything we can do, we can afford – with Jamie Driscoll of Majority
“The first and most fundamental duty of a civilised state is the safety of its people. Not just safety from overseas adversaries, or crime in the street. Economic security. A bill you can pay without going overdrawn. A house you can afford before your children have children of their own. A job that lasts long enough to plan around.
Britain guarantees none of these. Not for want of money, or land, or people who know how to build. Our nation has all of that.For forty years we have outsourced that security to the global marketplace. We locked ourselves in a room and posted the key to a trading desk in New York. British government policy subservient to global winds.
They call it living within our means. We call it Hostage Nation.”
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#355 How not to be a hostage to the vigilante Bond Markets: with Jamie Driscoll of Majority
What are the actual, practical shifts in our political economy that we could do tomorrow, that would not require extra legislation and could transform our society? While there are many economists looking forward to an idealised system some way down the line, very few people – politicians or economists – are exploring what we could do now, today, within the guiderails of the existing system, with the politicians we have and the economy we have and the constraints of a world undergoing rapid geopolitical as well as geophysical change. Our guest today has done just that.
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#BONUS: Autumn Equinox Meditation with Manda Scott
Here is an Autumn Equinox Meditation to help set you up for the shift from the long days to the long nights.
For those in the Southern Hemisphere, there’s a Spring Equinox Meditation here.
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#354 The Stewardship Freehold Village – an idea whose time has come – with Michael Taite
How do we reconcile our human need for shelter, autonomy, a sense of safety in our own homes…with the wider need for us to collaborate with the Animate Earth? Our guest this week has written about this very problem and today, he talks to us about his concept of the ‘Stewardship Freehold Village’, which feels like one of those ideas that is so obvious, it’s amazing nobody thought of it before!
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#353 Making Glorious Trouble with Uffe Elbaek, activist, system builder and author of Doubt, Hope, Action
We talk a lot on this podcast about the need for a new system: politically, culturally, in business, media and art…in everything we do. And yet, we don’t often have the opportunity to talk with someone who has set up a new political party – still less one explicitly predicated on the core values of courage, generosity, transparency, humility, humour and empathy. You’d think it would be hard to argue against these, but, as Uffe Elbaek discovered when he entered the Danish Parliament…the system doesn’t always want to be courageous, or transparent, or generous, or to embody humility, humour and empathy.
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#352 We All Came By Boat – exploring Ireland & Britain’s ancient myths and the world’s future mythologies with Clare Murphy
Cupla Focal! (Irish Gaelic for ‘A Couple of Words’) – so here are a couple of words and then a few more: what happens when the Fires in our Hearts become tsunamis of feeling that take us beyond the narrow imaginal cul de sacs our culture has created, and throw our doors wide open to the wonder of the past and the absolutely unknowable, glorious, constantly surprising possibilities of the future we haven’t built yet?
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#351 Love, Anger and Betrayal: Stories from the front line of Climate Action with Jonathon Porritt and Daniel Knorr
“Climate activists are sometimes depicted as dangerous radicals. But the truly dangerous radicals are the countries that are increasing the production of fossil fuels. Investing in new fossil fuel infrastructure is moral and economic madness.” Antonio Guterres, UN General Secretary
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Honouring the Web of Life – Thoughts from the Edge #5 with Manda Scott
How does it feel to honour everything: the things we take for granted, the things we judge as being bad or wrong, the things that disturb us, as well as the things whose loss we grieve so deeply?
Manda explores the idea that shifting to a place of honouring can transform our entire worldview and help us to find meaning and purpose in a world on fire.
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#350 Building Scaleable Trust – Of Identity, Commons and Governance with Grace Rachmany of Sideways Earth
We know we need to create communities of place, purpose and passion – but if we can do this, how do we find other communities to link with so we can:
– Scale from community to region. (based on shared action)
– Keep one another accountable for behaviors that reflect what we say our values are (people are also squishy when they say the word values).
– Scale behaviour change beyond a closed or Dunbar-number community to multiple communities.
– Scale actions and collaborations to regional levels without a hierarchical coordination structure.
– Coordinate actions and behaviors based on the commons we share, whether or not we share “values”.
This is the missing link that is often overlooked as we craft a way forward to a world that works, and I’m so glad someone with Grace’s outstanding intellect and depth of heart is exploring this.
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#349 The Art of Possibility – A Possitopian approach to the Earth Crisis with Bridget McKenzie of Earth Talk
“The Possitopian approach to future thinking expands the cone of the possible future, draws on geophysical realities and data, and also applies imagination to help you imagine future scenarios which are potentially worse or better than you might allow yourself to think.”
So says this week’s guest, Bridget McKenzie, an artist and regenerative thought leader working to engage people with what she calls the Earth Crisis.
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#348 Creditism: Building the Ledger of Life with Remzi Bajrami of the Common Planet Foundation
How do we make a peaceful transition to a wholly new system when the old one is sustained by those who profit most from the self-terminating zombie of predatory capitalism?
Our guest this week has spent the past decade devising an answer to this most central of our questions. Remzi Bajrami is co-founder of Common Planet Foundation and creator of Creditism, which is his answer to our dilemma.
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#347 We Need a Victory Story: Mobilising the Silent Majority with Liam Kavanagh of the Climate Majority Project
If you listen to this podcast then you care about people and planet and how we make it through this potential crunch point when all our crises mash together.
But what if you knew you were not alone? What if you knew that almost everyone in our culture cares about this, they just don’t know what to do about it? They don’t have what this week’s guest, Dr Liam Kavanagh, calls the ‘Victory Stories’ to show how we made it through.
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#346 We Need to Talk about Tech: Exploring AI, fresh Hope…and the power of Song with Nathalie Nahai
We need to talk about Big Tech, and particularly AI – it’s ubiquitous, it’s powerful, and currently, it’s unconstrained and this is not an ideal combination if we live in the real world of mass extinction where human and more-than-human communities are being destroyed to serve the death cult of predatory capitalism at its most rapacious.
The question is – how do we shift the dial on the future when so many of those whose fortunes are sunk into Tech, and AI in particular, seem to be steeped in the Dark Triad of psychopathy, sadism and narcissism? Is there any sign of hope amidst all the chaos and the frozen despair that narratives of inevitability foster in us?
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#BONUS: Grown Up Politics 2: How can Andy Burnham deliver a future that works? With Rupert Read and Clive Lewis MP
How can our new Prime Minister deliver a future that repairs the ruptures within our national and international culture in a time frame that works while in the face of biophysical collapse and the onward march of the political wing of predatory capital?
In today’s bonus episode, we’re delighted to joined again by Rupert Read, Co-Director of the Climate Majority Project, and newly, by Clive Lewis, the Labour MP for Norwich South to explore the potential of this pivotal moment.
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#345 Healthy People, Healthy Planet, Healthy Future with Dr Amanda d’Almeida of Medicine Explained
How do we create healthy people, intimately enmeshed in a healthy biosphere so that, together, we can co-create routes to a healthy future?
Health is such an astonishingly polarised and polarising field: everyone has their triggers and there’s not a whole lot of self-regulation when they’ve been activated. But there are some truly astonishing people out there who are fully on board with the concept that late stage capitalism is at the heart of our ills and that regeneration of our connections is the key to building health in all its senses.
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